Said differently, roller people tend to be more purists who don’t want technology in the way (not all of course, but most). I generally don’t recommend products that don’t have a sustainable support path. What matters is whether or not it’s accurate. Help me out here, this would be a really good selling point to the better (much better) half! . And similarly, the Vortex Smart is at $520, but spec-wise it just doesn’t compete with the others above from a simulation of incline or accuracy standpoint. Marek. She said that Olly just got my old as a replacement I’ll start with the ones that leverage a skewer of some sort and don’t require removal of the wheel. This is really holding me of for the moment. Will stay loyal to them as one of my go to websites. 3) Elite Suito In-Depth Review. Last winter we had a ton of cross talk issues using the Kickr and Kickr Snap, despite all manner of disconnecting and forgetting devices. The Tacx Neo Smart is fitted with a neat three-color LED on the bottom of the frame. This is supposed to be compatible, but the spacing between the cassette and drive side drop out is wider than when the wheel is installed. I have had ordered Tacx Bike in 2018, sold Neo to find out that bike was not coming. The only other trainer that has that is the full Wahoo KICKR (at $1,199). It’s not hard to get a situation where you try and reach for a TV remote control, or something off to the side, and fall over. As always, an excellent review. The ride feel isn’t appreciably different. It’s cute (I have a Neo 2) but not essential, like “road feel” which the Tacx also has. I guess it’s the delay gift that keeps on giving. Again, I don’t want a monthly subscription fee, if that can be avoided. Outside the above, from the three widely used and well regarded nearly silent smart trainers: The Core is the least expensive. If I wasn’t so lazy moving around trainers, I’d probably ride the H3 anytime I rode TrainerRoad. Thank you so much for your help and all you do! The NEO 2 added some minor internal hardware over the NEO 1, and eventually Tacx plans to release Garmin Cycling Dynamics to the NEO 2T and NEO 2 based on that. Both trainers had issues after one year. Whereas on a Wahoo trainer you don’t get cadence with the data stream from the trainer, so you need to choose between heart or cadence as your second sensor type. The advantage of number 2 is that my wife and two older kids (aged 12 and 10) could in theory use the wattbike atom. Wahoo has told us this can happen when the two units get confused about paired devices. I’m looking to replace an old non-Smart Tacx Bushido so I can use online apps. Why only four? This means I have to change not just cable tension but also the limit settings every time I switch between indoor and outdoor. So now I am on refurbished unit number 2 and at least the problem is less prominent on the other two. But nevertheless, those differences do exist, and at this pointy end of the pricing spectrum, it’s mostly those smaller differences that ultimately make one more appealing than another. Especially now that there seems to be little difference between trainers, Why do these devices have such short warranties? Does that make the Direto X a better buy ? Thanks for all the info!! Silent as my #1. So for things that are still outstanding, it’s tougher for me to recommend them at this time. Our team of KICKR support technicians go through a 47 point comprehensive checklist to ensure that the KICKR meets our factory specification. Neo 2T is not due to be avaliable in Ayustralia till Feb 2020 Like, I know that Tacx itself is still European, but are they still European within the Garmin universe? CLICK HERE: See Wahoo Kickr Smart Trainer at Amazon UK. This is a fan. Meaning, someone looking to spend $599 is probably OK spending $699, and someone teetering at $529 might be OK spending that $699 too if the benefits make sense. which one to choose? US technical editor James Huang gathered up the latest Wahoo Fitness KICKR, along with the CycleOps Hammer, the Elite Drivo, and Tacx Neo Smart to see which one is the most sweat-worthy. Every trainer and trainer company seems to have rushed this year or last year. Quick question – if I could choose between a flux S and a neo 1, for the same price – which would you recommend ? Why on earth the NEO doesn’t include a cassette is (still!) Gotta go digging! . So, she ends up working much harder than the system indicates. Same problem as before. But again, I sure as hell wouldn’t buy a used KICKR CORE/2018 off of anybody (Updated note: This does not apply to Wahoo’s own refurbed units. I guess I just need to up my sprint game. This also means you can re-ride your outside rides (elevation changes and all) without any other software. I own a tacx vortex smart, I want to upgrade, and I was waiting for this post and for the suito final review. Switching to a softer aluminum lockring eliminated the binding. GPLama/Shane Miller has tested this in a video, and it’s definitely worth a watch. Stages Power L) for outdoor use, if I could use the build in Power Meter of the Smart Trainer to roughly compare my line values, to Just at “high” cadence (95+) and “low” wattage (150+/-) some sporadic vibrations, nothing serious. That central unit’s large footprint doesn’t sink into carpet padding very much, and the feet on the outriggers don’t extend down far enough to completely keep the trainer from rocking. The Elite Drivo is awkward to set up and fold, and only tenuously stands up on its own when the legs are tucked away. Before this Wahoo Core and Tacx Neo I had a Tacx Bushido that just worked. Of course the dB levels as per DCR are very subjective and difficult to compare. if I’m looking to sustain or minimize the losses maybe +/- 1500 is fine? Unbox, Setup and be happy. (Due to supply constraints, those are basically my only choices, except for the Elite Tuo for $462, though unless your review on the Tuo comes out soon and says that you recommend it over the other two, I’ll opt for direct drive). Certainly from a price point of view. Like CompuTrainer, they’re out of business. It wouldn’t keep me from buying it from any reputable dealer. How do you test for accuracy? I am in the market for a new trainer, but am looking for one that is able to rock side to side. I would expect that it is related to production. 2. The Tacx Neo has a good amount of lateral flex (not “rocking” exactly) that makes standing/sprinting more realistic. by James Huang. It’s there. Very reasonable, I just picked up a Zumo from Halfords for £405 (£450 -10% for AA members). Also, what is quite to me may not be quite to you. 1. I guess I wrote it wrong. I’d have no issues picking up a KICKR 2017 for cheap – that’s aged really well. With all the sales going on, if you could get a Saris H3 or a Elite Suito for close to the same price which would you go with? Tacx Flux 2: This originally came out last year, and after my testing I found ERG mode (such as for TrainerRoad) horribly inaccurate. You mention that not all bikes fit the direct drive trainers, some high-end, triathlon or disc bikes. I want to buy a mid-high end trainer and I’m only focus on very good ERG mode and road feel as well as it can’t be noisy. It’s been a while since I’ve used the Bushido – but I’m pretty sure I’d choose SNAP no matter, mainly for road feel. I made a short video but it is hard to capture the audio in a way you hear it in real person. The spacer prevents the pads from advancing forward if the lever is pulled without the rotor in place. The Wahoo Fitness KICKR’s outboard feet have a generous adjustment range, and easily lock in place. And surprise surprise it just works. Thanks! I’m thinking about jumping into the smart trainer mix (to replace my decade old CycleOps Mag trainer) with the current sales on trainers. But for a more immersive feeling I like to have a bigger display. Essentially, what trainers to look for used? Thanks so much for this website – it’s so comprehensive. And that’s just the knocking sound and wobbling flywheel, the ERG issues and other kind of errors can’t be recorded via video so easily and directly, owner should talk and explain it, people don’t like to do that on youtube, but it’s also reported and documented. Same goes for a new-in-box Flux 1 (but I’d be hesitant on a used Flux 1 due to early teething pains). More importantly, it’s unflappably consistent at both moderate and high outputs, and accounting for both steady-state riding and sudden sprints. New to the second-generation Wahoo Fitness KICKR is a revised handle, which is perfectly positioned and oriented for easy transport. I’ve talked about it repeatedly in the podcast too. These are the Tacx Flow and Vortex for example. The MyETraining app would not run without workarounds as MacOS Catalina treats it as untrusted software. Wahoo KICKR Smart Trainer funktionieren mit den beliebtesten Apps für Ihr Training, egal ob Sie einen virtuellen Kurs fahren oder ein strukturiertes Watt-Workout ausführen, um das beste Indoor-Training zu erleben. Really, it is. I’m very interested to buy my first Smart Trainer but I have a problem without respons inside all comments. But only Wahoo and Ray will know, and they won’t tell us ;-). Meaning, on paper the H1 is a better trainer, minus the sound. Personally, I’d probably pickup a reconditioned Wahoo KICKR Core over a Drivo 1. Do you have any experience with the device, and how does it compete with a 1st Gen Flux (available for 480€)? I also have a vector 3 power meter so not so concerned about power inaccuracies in sprinting. These don’t have weight or size restrictions on the bearings like what is used on bike parts so those should last a long time. KICKR Smart Trainers use the Wahoo EASY SET-UP APP to make onboarding a snap. The other trainers here use a belt to transfer power from the drive system to the resistance unit, but the Neo Smart’s rotating bits are all situated concentrically with the rear axle. I wonder how this can happen. I decide to grab a CycleOps H2 (from reliability point) even if the noise level is bigger then Suito’s. Mid-Range $500-$700: These tend to be units that have everything of the price bucket below it, but usually with just a bit more accuracy and a bit more power. In any case, that pretty much decimated the value prop for the Elite Direto at $899 or the Tacx Flux 2 at $899. Though, I’m pretty sure Kinomap works with the Tacx BLE standard just fine. Would just need the through axle adapter $115. In your case having an original KICKR, there is a bigger flywheel though – and while off-hand I can’t say whether or not that’d feel substantial (certainly noticeable, but not massive). I did have to return. New Elite Suito. First from a normal dealer and second was a replacement directly from Wahoo. They wish it would, and they’re still working away on the firmware. ERG Mode Power Smoothing i am trying to decide whether to upgrade and i am looking at three options, 1. I currently have a Kinetic Road Machine “dumb” trainer. In 2020. TrainerRoad), I think beyond that I’d go CORE there between Flux and CORE. Decisions. I measured 62dB of noise at 200W, and it not only climbs steadily with increasing speed and resistance, the tone is a bit more shrilly and unpleasant than the other trainers tested here. So we get some wider view about issues maybe Shane or you are not encountering. Get all your awesome high quality DCR kit and gear here! All three of these are accurate (notably so for me with the latest Tacx NEO 2T firmware 0.31). Thanks again for the detailed post. But I’m in an area where I don’t have access to broadband internet and will need to check out how data intensive programs like Zwift are to see if my internet connection can handle it without choking.

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